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29-07-2015

Points and levels overhauled, registrations and recounts now accepted. Please don't hesitate to give us feedback on the new system!



Rules and Guidelines



- You are responsible for keeping up with points and notifying the group when your horse is ready to advance.
- Art from other artists will count, including commissions, but the number of images drawn by other must not exceed the number drawn by you.
- Although our admins will try their best to check through your point tallies, please note that it is not always possible to check every image so please be honest when counting, and if you are not sure let us know as we will always try to help you out!
- Traced drawings are accepted as long as it is stated that the drawing is traced and given proper credit to the photographer. Same goes for photo backgrounds, although the latter will not gain the background points.
- Pre-made linearts or reusing your own linearts will not give you any points, all art should be original.
- If you have any questions about the point system please comment on the journal.
- Please keep all of your points in a point tracker journal.
Here is the template:  sta.sh/0i4u5ui0o52
Here is an example of a filled in template: [Coming Soon]

Levels


These levels have been chosen to coincide with the British Dressage Levels of competition.
Preliminary – 0- 25 points
Novice – 26-50 points
Elementary – 51-100points
Medium – 101-149 points
Intermediate I – 150-174 points
Intermediate II – 175-199 points
Grand Prix – 200-300 points
Grand Prix Special – 300+ points

Coming Soon: Rewards for reaching certain levels!


Point Categories




References


References must be full body with colour and have both the competition name and stable name in the artist comment, along with the link to the points journal. References must use an original lineart for at LEAST one side of the design, otherwise they get 0 points. Only one side of design needs to be shown.

Current Reference- 3 points
Previous Reference (max.2) – 1 point


Dressage Training



Dressage training images are discipline specific. No jumps are permitted to be shown. Horses can be shown on the lunge line, in a round pen or in either a sand or grass arena, or schooling in a field as long as there are no jumps visible. (You may show jumps if the horse is schooling in an arena with others as long as it is obvious the horse is doing dressage). Images must at least be coloured or shaded with the horse’s markings

Not Full-body - 3 points
Full-body - 5 points
Background included - +2 points

Backgrounds are up to the discretion of the admin.



Other Discipline Training



This is for any other type of training your horse has done, as we want to reward that too! This includes western disciplines and groundwork that is not dressage specific, along with foal training images and also any other English discipline.

Not Full-body – 1 point
Full-body – 2 points
Background Included - +1 point


Recreational Images



Partial Body – 1 point
Fullbody – 3 points
Background - +1 point

Breeding pictures count as recreational images too!


Dressage Show Entries



Main entry (Effort Shows)

Under 50% of horse and rider shown – 4 points
Full-body – 6 points
Dressage-League Sanctioned - +3 points

Main Entry (over 25% RNG Shows)

Headshot – 1 point
Partial Body – 2 points
Full-body – 3 points

For RNG shows, the number of points added for placing is HALVED ie. First, +3 points


Placings



Grand Champion - +10 points
Reserve Champion - +8 points
First - +6 points
Second - +4 points
Third - + 2 points
Judge’s Choice/Honourable Mention - +2 points

Proof is required for placings. If the link has been lost, it will be up to the admins discretion to award the points or not.


Dressage Show Extras




Vet Inspections

Not Full-body - 2 points
Full-body - 4 points
Background - +1 point

Other Extras

Headshots – 1 point
Full-body – 3 points
Background-+1 point

Extras must be coloured or be shaded with the horse’s markings




Other Discipline Show Entries



Other discipline entries are worth the same as other discipline training images. Please see above for points.

Placings are worth HALF the value of the dressage placing points above.


Bloodlines



Sire/Dam in Dressage League

Preliminary – +0 points
Novice - +1 point
Elementary - +2 points
Medium - +3 points
Intermediate I - +4 points
Intermediate II - +5points
Grand Prix - +6 points
Grand Prix Special - + 7points


Foal in Dressage League



Preliminary – +0 points
Novice - +1 point
Elementary - +2 points
Medium - +3 points
Intermediate I - +4 points
Intermediate II - +5points
Grand Prix - +6 points
Grand Prix Special - + 7points
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prettypinkey2 Featured By Owner May 19, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi, two questions as a new member!

1) I have a dog that is trained in "road dog" for DARPG; would this be considered as other discipline training for my horse, or recreational?

2) Is it necessary to have the point tracker in a journal, or can I have it set up in the horse's description (as it is now)? You can see my dogs' references for an example of how it'll be filled out as my horse obtains points!
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Cookie1992 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Does an in-hand dressage competition count as dressage or as other discipline?
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CT-Dutch-Equine Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
How does it work with EquiBreak pictures and graduation? I have 6 mandatory and 5 or 6 optional foal course pictures made, do I count these pictures as "other training" and do I get the bonus of 15 on top of that?
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OakBrookeStables Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Trainings leading up to the discipline training will be 'other training' as you get bonus points for the completion of Equibreak :)
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CT-Dutch-Equine Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So all 11 pictures count as other training? (pictures are things like getting used to halter, being led, away from mom for the first time etc) Doubtfull since they arent really pictures leading up directly towards the discipline, and some should be counted more as rec images I think (last time with mom, play time, showing of its halter). And then (since I completed the course) I get also the bonus ontop of that correct? 

Just double checking would hate to give him points he should not have.
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OakBrookeStables Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Any pictures that depict the foal training, so like groundwork and things, lunging, etc, count as training images. Any images like your play time and showing off would count as recreational :) And yep! Bonus ontop of that! :D
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Helsinge Featured By Owner Edited Feb 11, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
My own two cents on the rankings/levels- I like the difficulty level. There are plenty of groups where the "top ranking" is pretty easy to achieve. Those of us who do like having something to strive for run out of new achievements. Even with the new HIEF standards, several of my horses would still be 4*, whereas here, there's still another rank to achieve- Saigon isn't far off, but Grand Prix Special is such a demanding difficulty that it gives an immense sense of pride to reach that. It truly is the "top level" whereas with some groups, it feels like you flatline very quickly. 4* in HIEF hasn't really felt like a massive accomplishment, and the new changes will fix that a bit, but it's still really nice to have something here that truly does feel like the créme de la créme. If these high levels get hacked down, there goes that sense of extra special accomplishment. Not every horse is a Grand Prix horse, and I have no illusions about all of mine reaching that, but for the extra special ones I draw the most, it's nice for them to have an achievement that sets them apart from my other horses, one which reflects the true level of effort put into them.
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xxElanite Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I indeed second that the difference is very drastic. Maybe not 10, but 25p per level seems fair, as my horse is almost 4* in HIEF but he classes elementary here :/
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MelonHeadGirl Featured By Owner Edited Dec 14, 2015  Student General Artist
Hiya! Sorry I'm so late to comment on this/get around to changing up all my references/point records...

I like the new point breakdowns etc... but the rankings/levels seem wayyyyy too high. I've got horses that were four star under the previous system but now they barely class as Elementary, which seems a tad unfair ^^; I understand the desire for realism, but I'd truly be impressed if more than one or two people managed to get even one horse up to Grad Prix level...

Perhaps ten points per level would be fairer? So 0-9 is Preliminary, 10-19 is Novice, 20-29 is Elementary... that seems a lot more attainable in my book!
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OakBrookeStables Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am so terribly sorry for my late response to this.

I have made these level changes as it gives those horses who reach the top in most systems, something to strive for. Not every horse is going to reach those top levels and I feel that adds some realism to it as only a handful of dressage horses ever make it to grand prix level. 
Additionally I feel that through setting these levels high it opens the possibility for the dressage league to add in more special events that will double or triple the points for specific pictures, thus helping with the horse's point tally and helping to keep the group active. I am working on such events just now, to launch around Easter or Summer.

I did run the new point system through a few people before posting it to see if they thought it was fair, and I put a couple of my horses through it too. I do have one horse that has enough pictures to be Grand prix special but I do draw her a lot more than all my other horses which shows that it is an attainable target to those that are specifically trying to level up one horse opposed to level up horses equally. 

As the group's overhaul is not 100% complete due to my university commitments, the system is certainly still subject to some change, depending how the group's events pan out, but for now I am not comfortable with changing the system until more people have submitted their horses so I can get a better idea across the board.

I hope you understand, I am trying me best to make it a fair system but with room to grow for the high levelled horses. :)
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MelonHeadGirl Featured By Owner Edited Feb 12, 2016  Student General Artist
Hiya, no worries! Life comes first after all! :giggle:

I do totally understand where you're coming from, but I still think the levels you've set are too high... I get what you mean about it giving room for DL events offering double/triple points, but I also think that if people see just how difficult it is for their horse to reach a high level (ie. become 'better' in HARPG etc) they might get turned away from registering? 

And I've looked through my own horses and totted up their points on the new system, and their ranking just doesn't seem accurate? Take Yankee, for example: DWS Yankee. She's got five show entries (four of which she's placed in), four training pictures, and a reference, yet only has 55 points. To become Grand Prix special that means she'd have to have at least 30 show entries total (assuming the ratio of entries to placings remains the same) and at least 24 training images. Or take DWS A Friend of the Family, he's got six show entries (including the Olympics, and two placings), four training images, and a reference, but has 92 points, so that means he'd need at least 20 or so shows (with placings and elite shows thrown in) and 12 training images. I can understand you're aiming for only dedicated horses/people to get their horses up to the highest levels, but given that HA-RPG is very much a fun thing to do in spare time, that drawing 20, 30 pictures of a horse just to get a certain ranking in a group seems like a lot of work...

I'm assuming the horse of yours that you're referencing is Falling Raindrops? I noticed she had a sort-of-similar number of images to some of my horses and did a quick tot-up in my head and only got around 150 points for her? And that's with every image being full-body, and every show entry being for an elite show. Am I missing a really big part of the points system or...? :lmao:

I don't mean to come across as anything other than making a suggestion, it's just a bit of a shock to find that my top-ranking horses that had enough points for 4* and over in the old system are now less than middle-weight! :giggle:
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OakBrookeStables Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I feel like there are a lot of other registries that aren't dressage specific with lower bandings so I wanted something to give people something further to aim for, as I know from experience that when a couple of my horse reach the top of their systems it just doesn't feel like there is much more for them to achieve. I don't know if the high bandings are turning people away at the moment but I will wait to see about that.

I completed Rain's tally up tonight, hence why I waited to reply as I wanted to be able to link you to it! At the moment she is sitting with 319 points. Almost half of her points have derived from dressage training images as these are worth 7 points if they are full bodied with a background (can be simple background).
Here is her point tally; OBS Falling Raindrops - Dressage League

I know personally hardly any of my other horses will make it to GPS, but I plan to use these levels to work my ageing structure around as well as to judge when my horses are ready to breed.

In the future I hope to run a yearly tally of the horses who compete and get placed etc each year, winning league points and then having a presentation at the end of the year (which will probably run from SDS to SDS!)

I do know what you mean about counting up points for new systems, to be honest I didn't think any of my horses would make it x'D Thought they would all be miles away but it does all add up quite quickly if you pick the images you want to do carefully!
While counting Rain's points again tonight I might make a small alteration to the points allocated to dressage shows and raise the base number as at the moment it almost seems better to be doing dressage trainings! 
Likely, any changes won't be made before SDS is underway as that is what I am working on just now and trying to make it unique this year :la: (by the way if you want to give your input on my ideas so far let me know as I have a google doc with my current ideas on it I would be delighted for some opinions on before I develop it further).
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MelonHeadGirl Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Student General Artist
Hi again,

Ahh, fair enough, forgive me for thinking you'd counted wrong! Thank you for writing it all out so clearly as well!

And that sounds great, I guess we'll just see where it goes :aww:
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CrazyBrit88 Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
what happens if the person deletes the journal so you're unsure of weather its sanctioned to the dressage league, do I just count it as a normal show entry
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Joybird Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
fav.me/d4hg9ez All shows that have been sanctioned by DL are listed here.
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REIGNLESS Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Question - not sure how this image would stack regarding points. 
I am (assuming -.-) thinking that this would count as one image? Or would it count as a head shot and a full body?
Vet Check CBF by REIGNLESS
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Joybird Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It will count as both fullbody and headshot ^^ Just write it down clearly in the point section, so there's no confusion as to where the points are coming from, when we count them :3
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kassousminou Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
it's kinda sad that the AUSE-Olympic doesn't even qualify for elite show ... it couldn't be considered as because it's the Olympic, nah ? xD
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kassousminou Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
actually ... there was more than 15 registrants for the dressage class, but less then 15 completed their entries .. does it count then ?
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Joybird Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If its a show that requires pre-registration, it needs to have more than 15(first time)/30(second+ time) registrants, if not all sent in their entry that doesnt matter on the Elite status. If you want to suggest AUSE-Olympics as a sanctioned show, you may do that, and just add that it qualifies as an Elite Show.
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kassousminou Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yay :) but I thought it was already sanctioned .. mm .. it's already judged, can I still suggest it ? 
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Joybird Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
dressage-league.deviantart.com… here's the list of sanctioned events. Yes you can still suggest it. It will then go on the previous sanctioned events journal.
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kassousminou Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
awesome :) thanks :la:
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LightningTheif Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Are vet inspections for 3DE applicable here? I'm currently working on my inspection for my mare's World Tournament entries, and she's only in 3DE ^^
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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I think we can amend the rules so a 3DE vet inspection has to have proof of a dressage entry actually being completed... so as long as the horse has a dressage entry to go along with the vet inspection it will count.
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LightningTheif Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alrighty, thanks!
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AvocetsStables Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In terms of placement, what would a Distinguished Performance placement be in terms of points? ( Exemplary performance was a step above it)
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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I'd call that a Reserve Grand Champion if it meant you were 'second place' among all of the entries at the show.
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AvocetsStables Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alrighty Thanks ^-^'
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Weatherbroken Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Do you add the fact that it has entered a show on top of a fullbody.headshot scor? for example: Fullbody + minishow = 7 points, or just 5 / 2?

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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013  Student Digital Artist
You'll add the scores :)
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Weatherbroken Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Okay thanks <3
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SmexyHajiSan Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Would a horse be considered a 3 star if they participated in an elite show, but haven't placed 1- 3 in at least 2 shows, or is that horse still considered 1 star, even if they have the required amount of points and the qualifying show?
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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013  Student Digital Artist
It would still be a One Star
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SmexyHajiSan Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ah. Ok ^^. Thank you.
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Ysval Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013  Student
Is Saddle seat also classified as dressage?
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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Saddle seat is considered a completely different discipline than dressage.
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Ysval Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Student
Oh, sorry, my bad.
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SunshineEliteStables Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hum..when i count my mare i get over 6o points but she' doesn't win a show Oo she's 2nd in a mini-show an 3rd in a "normal" dressage show.
Can u tell wht is wrong ?:$ [link]?
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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2013  Student Digital Artist
By the looks of it, Kalinka is currently a One Star Horse

- Your "Weatherbroke Mini-event is a sanctioned show so that adds 5 points.
- One of the show links (right above the minishow link) doesn't work.

To get a Two Star rating you will have to show her until you get two first place scores. It doesn't matter if it's a mini-show or full show. I would suggest looking for shows to add to the "Sanctioned Show" list and possibly the "Elite Show" so you can advance to Three or Four Stars with only a little more effort :) If you find any, just send a note to suggest them to the list :)
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SunshineEliteStables Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thank u very much :)
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Ehetere Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Q) Do only dressage classes count or do similar classes such as show hack count also where dressage moves / collection are performed?
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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
We would prefer it to be a dressage class, but if the image is of the horse performing a dressage type move we will likely count it :)
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VersaFarm Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My horse has more then enough points to have 4 :stars:, But I don't know where to find a dressage league sanctioned show...
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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Sanctioned Shows: [link]

This one (First Annual Ironstone Invitational) [link] can count as an Elite Show

(I'm sure some others will count as Elite Shows as well. The very bottom of this journal [link] tells you what makes an Elite Show
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VersaFarm Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Awesome, thank you!
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MidnightAyaChan Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I'm just getting started with this stable thing so I thought I'd ask a few questions.

1. Would references done on a lineart still count? I'm one of the types that prefers that a reference just be a simple image that shows markings for future use. I don't like wasting time making individual pictures when I could be doing other things. xD Is this all right?

2. Are you accepting all breeds and unnatural colored horses? My stable focuses on Zorses and Unicorn Zorses both natural and unnatural colored. My only dressage horse right now is a solid black draft unicorn. ^^;

3. It says that it is 'preferred' that only 1/4 of entries are mini-shows. I prefer to only enter RNG type shows as I don't feel confidant enough with my horse drawing skills to waste my time with effort shows. Can I still join or is this group not for me?

4. If a horse can competed in 2 dressage shows (and placed second in one of them), is a training picture still required for beginner?

Thank you so much for taking the time to look (and hopefully answer). ^-^
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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Student Digital Artist
1. A basic reference counts as long as it shows a general profile with markings. :) You may use the single lines.

2. We accept any horse and part horse as long as it performs dressage

3. Mini shows simply mean that you only are required to draw headshots that are sketchy and likely have no backgroudns(aka not much effort). We don't care if the shows are judged rng or effort lol. It depends on if you are desiring to be a really high level or don't mind taking your time to reach whatever you can get.

4. Yes, a training image is required. It doesn't have to be super fancy, but shows the horse with dressage tack in some sort of dressage pose. Riders are optional.


Thank you for your questions :)
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MidnightAyaChan Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thank you so much for getting back to me! Sounds like I can definitely partake in this group. ^-^ I don't mind taking my time with it though. Counting the required training I need to do (but not counting the Dressage League Sanctioned show) my boy already has 49 points. I don't think it's going to take all that long to get him anywhere. ^-^
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amour-interdit Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Student Digital Artist
fantastic!
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